Pawn

Last Updated: Aug 12, 2018 Game Version: 8.0.1

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Jan 13, 2008

Owner: VgerAN

Pawn helps you find upgrades for your gear and tell which of two items is better for your spec. Start with built-in advice from Ask Mr. Robot, or customize Pawn's stat weights to have it suggest items based on your favorite class guide or simulator. Pawn can help you decide whether it's better to use the cloak with 500 mastery or the one with 450 crit—whether you're just starting out, or you're an advanced player who plans out gear upgrades and regularly simulates and evaluates performance.

Language support

Pawn works with English, French, German, Italian, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish (European and Latin American), Simplified Chinese, and Traditional Chinese. Unlike most addons, Pawn's language has to match the language you play WoW in.

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Prerelease alpha versions of Pawn are occasionally available on CurseForge.

Getting started

If you're new to Pawn, don't worry—Pawn will automatically set itself up to give you advice based on math done by the experts at Ask Mr. Robot. Just watch for Pawn's green arrows. If you decide you want to go further, there are a lot of ways that you can customize Pawn, by tracking multiple specs at once, importing custom stat weights, and more.

Found a bug?

If you think you might have found a bug, just leave a comment here. In addition to a description of the problem, please make sure to include: (1) the language that you use Pawn and WoW in, (2) the specific items that don't work as expected, and (3) your class and spec if you're using the built-in (not custom) stat weights. Screenshots are usually very helpful as well.

Incompatible with...

Pawn will not work with Titan Panel Artifact Power or Combat Numbers Separator. Those addons change item tooltips and will cause Pawn to give bad advice. It's also been reported that using Pawn with TradeSkillMaster can cause the game to crash or hang.

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gman98791
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Posted Aug 13, 2018
Happy Launch Day!

I understand you get your stat strings from AMR. On like 2 specs (Disc priest, sub rogue) I believe its missing a number for the weights. For Disc Priest, haste is listed as '.42' where the other stats are over 1.0. I belive haste should be '1.42' I couldnt find the stats weights on AMR at the moment, Im aware of making my own string, but for starting and some of my alts, I trust that Pawn (and extension AMR) are supplying me with the right general information.

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Posted Aug 13, 2018
In reply to gman98791:

Hi, and happy launch day to you as well! .42 is the latest information that I have from AMR for Haste for Disc—they have Haste as valued extremely low for both Disc and Holy, but decently high for Shadow. I believe they optimize for Mythic+ and raid performance by default, when fights are longer, so maybe for level 120 characters right now, haste doesn't have a very significant contribution to healing since it just helps you run out of mana faster? I'm not sure of the reason, but I did double-click the latest numbers from their site.

I do expect an update to the stat weights within the next week, but as of now it's what they're recommending.

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Posted Aug 13, 2018
Hi there !

What does it mean when an item has a green smiley on it ? I'm aware of green arrows, but what about the smileys ?

Thanks !

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Posted Aug 13, 2018
In reply to zoltan120:

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. Can you include a screenshot?

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Posted Aug 12, 2018
Hello,

Please add TSM to the "Incompatible with" section. The 2 together are causing WoW to crash. With one or the other disabled there are no problems, but having them enabled together and the game just freezes, usually at the mailbox, AH or Bank.

Thanks

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#4532 VgerAN

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Posted Aug 13, 2018
In reply to Boges11:

Okay, done. Thanks for the report! I'll see what I can find out. I know that TSM caused some problems before.

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Bodar
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Posted Aug 12, 2018
Hi,

Version: 2.2.24

There is a bug in Pawn.lua line 3307:

ItemLocations is global, you have missed to prefix with "local "

in line 3334:

i think wipe(ItemLocations) must called after "end end", an not in the innerloop :-)

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Posted Aug 12, 2018
In reply to Bodar:

Right-o. Thanks! Fixed in 2.2.25.

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Posted Aug 11, 2018
Hi! About the last change you did when comparing artifacts against normal weapons, it seems it still needs a bit of work. As an example, my rogue's artifact against a world quest weapon:

As you can see, the artifact have the exact same stats on main and off-hand (secondaries, damage, etc) For some reason, Pawn is giving the off-hand a lower value than the world quest weapon. I think this is why it thinks it is an upgrade. For what is worth, I'm using the default AMR scales.

Hope this helps, because Pawn isn't giving errors or anything, just incorrect values.

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Posted Aug 12, 2018
In reply to jsantosv:

Hmmm, ugh, you know, I wonder if the problem is that it's a one-handed weapon and the game has a bug where the item off-hand's item level is reported to addons as if it doesn't have any relics in it (like, the level you got it at... used to be 750). I tried out subtlety rogue but not outlaw. I'll look into it.

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Posted Aug 12, 2018
In reply to jsantosv:

Thanks for the report! I've got this fixed in Pawn 2.2.25, which I'll release today. I think it's only an issue for those super-crappy Lordaeron weapons, but just in case, this should cover everything.

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Posted Aug 6, 2018
I notice in the options there's a setting to have Pawn handle the green upgrade arrow that shows on items in your bags, what I'm wondering is if that's a simple binary yes/no decision that Pawn makes and WoW actually displays the arrow or if Pawn is actually displaying the arrow. If the latter, could you add an option to control where on the item the arrow displays?

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Posted Aug 7, 2018
In reply to ray_smith:

Hi! It's the former unfortunately, so there isn't an easy way for me to control where the arrow shows up. (The upside is that it automatically works with multiple bag replacement addons without having to do extra work.) It would be cool if I could completely reimplement the game's arrows feature and then add new options, spec icons, change the color of the arrow, and so on, but unfortunately replacing the bag arrows is a big enough task that I probably wouldn't ever get around to it.

Thanks for the suggestion, and sorry for the bad news!

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Posted Aug 4, 2018
I'm a little confused about "Special weapon stats." I'm a feral druid. agility, haste, and crit are important for me.

Looking at two items, Pawn recommends one with NO agility, NO haste, and NO crit because it has higher minimum and maximum weapon damage.

I thought weapon damage (i.e., "white damage") would be unimportant for the most part. Why is it weighted so heavily? I'm sure I'm missing something!

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Posted Aug 5, 2018
In reply to Akylax:

Hi! The Ask Mr. Robot stat weights that come with Pawn come from them directly, so I'm not sure specifically why any specific class is set up the way it is. But yeah, currently, weapon damage is set as more important than all other stats for feral druid. It was my understanding that weapon damage isn't as important in BfA as in Legion, but I'm not sure. You might want to contact Mr. Robot and see why it's still showing up so high in their simulations.

Sorry that I don't have any better information for you!

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Posted Aug 5, 2018
In reply to VgerAN:

No, no, this is helpful. I thought maybe you had some specific reason. I'm thinking maybe it's because feral druids have a bunch of downtime where there's nothing we can cast. (shrug)

Thanks for the reply! Lemme see if Mr. Robot can answer....

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Posted Aug 4, 2018
Hi! For some weird reason even looting an old-school item like a vanilla mace will show as potential upgrade on my specs ( the green upward arrow). Any idea why this is happening? I've updated my stat weights since pre-patch hit. Anyone else have the same issue?

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Posted Aug 5, 2018
In reply to QQuirashi:

Hi—Can you tell me about your character? What class and spec? Are you using custom stat weights or the built-in Ask Mr. Robot ones? What language do you play in? Can you give me an example of two items that seem like an incorrect upgrade?

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Posted Aug 5, 2018
In reply to VgerAN:

Hi I play shaman enha/ele. Got my stat weights imported from SimC, I am not using the default ones. English language. Some drops from BRD(vanilla dungeon) for example will have the green update arrow on the bag, however when i highlight it doesnt mention a %upgrade but rather say Quirashi- Enhancement(raidbots)-------- upgrade. Its not class specific however I got that for all of my characters.

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Posted Jul 31, 2018
Hi ! I noticed something that seems weird (to me at least) : I'm using the current/base value display instead of only base value, but Pawn seems to always take the base value to tell if the item is an upgrade or not (and the % upgrade), which means it often tells me an item is an upgrade when actually it's not (cause its current value is not an upgrade and I have no intention of inserting a gem etc), which is quite inconvenient in the end :s

Is it intended ? If it is, would it be possible to either make it that when choosing the current value display, the current value is used to do the comparison, or as another separate option maybe ?

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