Pawn

Last Updated: Oct 10, 2018 Game Version: 8.0.1

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Jan 13, 2008

Owner: VgerAN

Pawn helps you find upgrades for your gear and tell which of two items is better for your spec. Start with built-in advice from Ask Mr. Robot, or customize Pawn's stat weights to have it suggest items based on your favorite class guide or simulator. Pawn can help you decide whether it's better to use the cloak with 100 mastery or the one with 80 crit—whether you're just starting out, or you're an advanced player who plans out gear upgrades and regularly simulates and evaluates performance.

Language support

Pawn works with English, French, German, Italian, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish (European and Latin American), Simplified Chinese, and Traditional Chinese. Unlike most addons, Pawn's language has to match the language you play WoW in.

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Prerelease alpha versions of Pawn are occasionally available on CurseForge.

Getting started

If you're new to Pawn, don't worry—Pawn will automatically set itself up to give you advice based on math done by the experts at Ask Mr. Robot. Just watch for Pawn's green arrows. If you decide you want to go further, there are a lot of ways that you can customize Pawn, by tracking multiple specs at once, importing custom stat weights, and more.

Found a bug?

If you think you might have found a bug, just leave a comment here. In addition to a description of the problem, please make sure to include: (1) the language that you use Pawn and WoW in, (2) the specific items that don't work as expected, and (3) your class and spec if you're using the built-in (not custom) stat weights. Screenshots are usually very helpful as well.

Incompatible with...

Pawn will not work with Titan Panel Artifact Power or Combat Numbers Separator. Those addons change item tooltips and will cause Pawn to give bad advice. It's also been reported that using Pawn with TradeSkillMaster can cause the game to crash or hang.

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Higenst
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Posted Aug 27, 2018
In reply to VgerAN:

What I can see now the problem exists on rings and weps. Not to sure about other armor.

Edit: Yeah seems to happen on all sorts off armor as well.

Update: It's gone now, reinstalled Simc and Pawn and used the SimC program instead of Raidbots. Seem to have fixed it

Last edited by Higenst: Sep 3, 2018

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garylisk
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Posted Aug 22, 2018
I reported an issue with Pawn thinking an item in my bags was an upgrade when it wasn't a few days ago, and I figured it out, which has led me to reporting a minor bug now.

Pawn thinks Mistweaver monks can dual wield. Basically, if I have a 1H in my main hand and a "held in off hand" item in my off hand, Pawn will tell me 1H weapons in my bags are upgrades even though I can't equip them in my off hand.

Thanks for this awesome addon!

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VgerAN
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Posted Aug 22, 2018
In reply to garylisk:

Hmmm, gotcha. Thanks for the report—I thought they could! I guess I only ever used staves when I tried mistweaver. Should be fixed in Pawn 2.2.28.

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michael_mccarson
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Posted Aug 22, 2018
I think I may have found an issue. Not sure how to add photos. Essentially Pawn is assuming that the best gem for me is a 'Quick Owlseye' which according to Pawn, is a +40 Haste gem. In game however, a 'Quick Owlseye' is only +9 haste. The result is Pawn is overvaluing sockets. I would show a screen shot where it is recommending a 325 over a 340 that has all the same stats just less of them on the 325 but because the 325 has a socket, it assumes you can put a +40 haste gem in and therefor Pawn thinks the 325 is better. Please look into this if you can. I don't give feedback ever but I saw something and figured your team may be interested. If there is a way that I can work around this in the meantime please let me know.

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VgerAN
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Posted Aug 22, 2018
In reply to michael_mccarson:

Hi! Thanks for the report. A couple things:

First, if haste is your best stat, Quick Owlseye will be the best gem, but on lower-level items (like the 325) it'll assume you'll put a lower-quality gem in there. I'd expect Pawn to suggest a Quick Golden Beryl for the 325 item. You can check which gem Pawn suggests for a specific item by shift-right-clicking it, or by typing the item level into Pawn's Gems tab. (If you click the Pawn button on the shift-right-click socketing window, it'll copy the item level into the Gems tab for you.)

Second, are you sure you're not just looking at the Quick Owlseye on a level 110 character? When you're 110 or below, the gems show up with lower stats than on a level 111-120 character.

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michael_mccarson
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Posted Aug 23, 2018
Quote from VgerAN >>

In reply to michael_mccarson:

Hi! Thanks for the report. A couple things:

First, if haste is your best stat, Quick Owlseye will be the best gem, but on lower-level items (like the 325) it'll assume you'll put a lower-quality gem in there. I'd expect Pawn to suggest a Quick Golden Beryl for the 325 item. You can check which gem Pawn suggests for a specific item by shift-right-clicking it, or by typing the item level into Pawn's Gems tab. (If you click the Pawn button on the shift-right-click socketing window, it'll copy the item level into the Gems tab for you.)

Second, are you sure you're not just looking at the Quick Owlseye on a level 110 character? When you're 110 or below, the gems show up with lower stats than on a level 111-120 character.

When I shift right click on my level 120 over the 340 item it suggest a Quick Owlseye and says that it should give me +40 haste when in actuality the highest haste gem is +9. For that reason, it is over-valuing anything with a socket.

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Posted Aug 23, 2018
Quote from VgerAN >>

In reply to michael_mccarson:

Hi! Thanks for the report. A couple things:

First, if haste is your best stat, Quick Owlseye will be the best gem, but on lower-level items (like the 325) it'll assume you'll put a lower-quality gem in there. I'd expect Pawn to suggest a Quick Golden Beryl for the 325 item. You can check which gem Pawn suggests for a specific item by shift-right-clicking it, or by typing the item level into Pawn's Gems tab. (If you click the Pawn button on the shift-right-click socketing window, it'll copy the item level into the Gems tab for you.)

Second, are you sure you're not just looking at the Quick Owlseye on a level 110 character? When you're 110 or below, the gems show up with lower stats than on a level 111-120 character.

In reply to michael_mccarson:

Also, Pawn thinks that a Quick Golden Beryl is+30 haste when it is not.

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VgerAN
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Posted Aug 23, 2018
In reply to michael_mccarson:

That's what the tooltips of those gems show. Is there a bug in the game where the tooltips show +30/+40 but the gems actually give fewer stats? I haven't gotten to 120 yet, but I see +30/+40 for those gems.

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Posted Aug 23, 2018
In reply to VgerAN:

Nevermind, I am dumb.

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VgerAN
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Posted Aug 24, 2018
In reply to michael_mccarson:

No problem. :) The way that gems and enchantments work now is pretty weird and confusing. My jewelcrafter is 110 and my bank alt is sub-60 so everything shows up with different mismatching stats and it feels like I'm going crazy.

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Posted Aug 27, 2018
In reply to VgerAN:

I hate hate hate hate hate that. Blizz has been doing that for years - at least since MoP if not Cata. At one point there was an addon (I think it was GemHelper) that would show you what the value would be for the toon you selected, when you were on your jewelcrafter (I don't recall the details, cause it stopped working and I deleted it) but I haven't found another one with that ability. My JC is one of the toons I keep at max level, and trying to craft gems for lower level toons who are not-quite-twinks (hte ones running BC dungeons constantly for mounts) to give them some extra buffing was crazymaking.

(As I recall, I enabled the addon, when to the JC toon and opened tradeskill, let the addon scrape what designs it new, and then opened the addon on the toon I wanted the gems *on* and could see what was available and what it would actually do.)

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Posted Aug 30, 2018
In reply to michael_mccarson:

I would love to have a way to fix this it is the only problem I have with pawn currently. :( Am I wrong that you cannot obtain those +30/40 stat gems or is it just being scaled without telling us?

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Mazzop
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Posted Aug 21, 2018
Any posibility to see custom weighs for specific spec only?

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VgerAN
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Posted Aug 21, 2018
In reply to Mazzop:

Hi! Not right now, but it's something I'm planning. Right now, automatic switching is just for the built-in Ask Mr. Robot scales, but I'm planning on making it possible to have Pawn use custom scales instead.

Can you tell me a little bit more about why you'd like Pawn to work that way, so I can make sure to design a feature that would be helpful to you?

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Posted Aug 22, 2018
In reply to VgerAN:

I want to see at glance witch items to use for my main spec and what to keep for off spec

Other idea would be using different colors (can assign to tooltip already) for upgrade arrows. I.e. my dps spec is green arrow, and for healing spec i set blue. If item is better for both spec, maybe arrow have 2 colors? But that will be lil messy for more specs i guess.

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Posted Aug 22, 2018
In reply to Mazzop:

Hmm, but how would turning custom weights off for other specs help you know what to keep for your off spec? Sorry, I don't understand. Do you mean that you want to still see arrows on item tooltips, but not on the arrows in the bags?

Right now I'm not able to change the color of the arrows in the bags because those are a built-in game feature and aren't being put there by Pawn—I just change which items get an arrow.

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Posted Aug 21, 2018
Pawn is telling me that my 160 heirloom hood is better than a 168 hood, when all the stats except one are worse. Should I still trust it? How reliable is this addon?

It is now telling me that a 172ilvl ring I just looted is worse than both of my rings, one being 160, and the other 166. The Fire stat on all three:

172 ring - 135.1

166 ring - 162.5

160 ring - 139.0

Seriously? Is pawn broken?

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VgerAN
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Posted Aug 21, 2018
In reply to Beowulf197641:

Hi! Crit is incredibly important for fire mages, and that level 172 ring doesn't have any at all. The low-level ring being slightly better than the higher-ring seems like what I'd expect. What seems broken to you? You'll need a high crit chance for reliable pyroblasts.

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Posted Aug 20, 2018
Since the last version, there is a bug when I open the map, it sometime (like always) close the map after few seconds.

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Posted Aug 21, 2018
In reply to Raskelot43593:

Hi! Thanks for the report. I don't think there's any way that that could be related to Pawn though; Pawn never opens or closes the map. Also, I've never had that happen to me.

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