Pawn

Last Updated: Mar 13, 2019 Game Version: 8.1.5

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Owner: VgerAN

Pawn helps you find upgrades for your gear and tell which of two items is better for your spec. Start with built-in advice from Ask Mr. Robot, or customize Pawn's stat weights to have it suggest items based on your favorite class guide or simulator. Pawn can help you decide whether it's better to use the cloak with 100 mastery or the one with 80 crit—whether you're just starting out, or you're an advanced player who plans out gear upgrades and regularly simulates and evaluates performance.

Language support

Pawn works with English, French, German, Italian, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish (European and Latin American), Simplified Chinese, and Traditional Chinese. Unlike most addons, Pawn's language has to match the language you play WoW in.

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Prerelease alpha versions of Pawn are occasionally available on CurseForge.

Getting started

If you're new to Pawn, don't worry—Pawn will automatically set itself up to give you advice based on math done by the experts at Ask Mr. Robot. Just watch for Pawn's green arrows. If you decide you want to go further, there are a lot of ways that you can customize Pawn, by tracking multiple specs at once, importing custom stat weights, and more.

Found a bug?

If you think you might have found a bug, just leave a comment here. In addition to a description of the problem, please make sure to include: (1) the language that you use Pawn and WoW in, (2) the specific items that don't work as expected, and (3) your class and spec if you're using the built-in (not custom) stat weights. Screenshots are usually very helpful as well.

Incompatible with...

Pawn will not work with Titan Panel Artifact Power or Combat Numbers Separator. Those addons change item tooltips and will cause Pawn to give bad advice. It's also been reported that using Pawn with TradeSkillMaster can cause the game to crash or hang.

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VgerAN
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#4710 VgerAN

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Posted Jan 6, 2019
In reply to nolderynh17951:

Hi! I haven't gotten any new stat weights from Ask Mr. Robot yet, but as soon as I do I'll update Pawn to include them.

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khawkins102
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Posted Dec 18, 2018
at least the add on is working for you, i get nothing. does not appear to function since update. wish i had not deleted old version now.

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Posted Dec 25, 2018
In reply to khawkins102:

just an update, downloaded again, Pawn is still not even being recognized by Wow. All my other mods are fine. Presently running, skada, raiderio, big wigs and little wigs, atlas loot and handy notes. has anyone else seen this issue?

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Posted Jan 6, 2019
In reply to khawkins102:

Can you remove Pawn and reinstall it? How are you installing Pawn? It sounds like something that might happen if you accidentally put Pawn in the wrong folder—for example, if it were in a folder called Interface\AddOns\Pawn-2.2.32\Pawn instead of Interface\AddOns\Pawn.

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Posted Dec 16, 2018
Everytime I equip, take off, or switch a piece of gear, my FPS drops from ~140 to 20 for a second or two causing wow to lag/freeze for those couple seconds. This only happens with Pawn is enabled, having other addons on or off did not affect this.

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Posted Jan 6, 2019
In reply to Tarasitarik:

Strange. Does it happen with only Pawn enabled, nothing else? I'd be less surprised if it only happened if Armory or some other addon that tracks gear across characters were enabled along with Pawn.

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Posted Jan 7, 2019
In reply to VgerAN:

Happens with only pawn enabled

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Posted Jan 9, 2019
In reply to Tarasitarik:

Do you have just a ton of scales enabled or something like that? I really can't imagine how a computer capable of getting 140 FPS could stutter noticeably at all—you'd probably see a frame or two drop while the game refreshes the green arrows in your bags (Pawn makes that process take a little longer), but that's it. Pawn's just reading the text on a tooltip and adding some numbers up, not calculating missile trajectories.

I appreciate the report, but right now I'm not sure what to suggest. Does it still happen if you uncheck Pawn's "Show bag upgrade advisor" option? (That option won't make a difference if you don't have your bags open when switching gear though.)

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Posted Dec 14, 2018
Do we know when this will be updated to 8.1?

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Posted Dec 14, 2018
In reply to VenusDarling:

Hi! Two hours after your message. :)

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Posted Dec 9, 2018
(1) English

(2) Can't compare 2h vs 1h+1h

(3) Fire Mage

https://imgur.com/a/TxvLBC6

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Posted Dec 14, 2018
In reply to Charliescow:

Hi! Thanks for the suggestion! That's definitely something that I'd like to improve upon someday. Right now I don't have a better solution for you other than to just add up the numbers yourself.

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Posted Nov 27, 2018
( Pawn: v1: "Ridiculoid - Arms (Raidbots)": Class=Warrior, Spec=Arms, Strength=1.70, CritRating=1.64, HasteRating=1.59, MasteryRating=1.39, Versatility=1.34, Dps=9.59 )

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Posted Nov 26, 2018
( Pawn: v1: "Ridiculoid - Arms (Raidbots)": Class=Warrior, Spec=Arms, Strength=1.73, CritRating=1.61, HasteRating=1.53, MasteryRating=1.39, Versatility=1.33, Dps=9.59 )

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Posted Nov 17, 2018
I'm using a custom set of values from Raidbots, not built-in scales. I only have one active scale, the Raidbots one.

My assassination rogue is having issues where despite having two daggers equipped, ANY dagger in bags regardless of item level is showing the upgrade indicator in the bag as well as "^ upgrade" in the tooltip despite no indication of an upgrade value. When I do compares it works correctly, it's the tooltip and icon indicator that seem to be awry. It seems that it's not detecting that I actually have daggers equipped in that scenario.

As a secondary issue which seems to be slightly different from some reported below, non-daggers are showing as upgrades when I'm in assassination spec despite non-daggers being sub-optimal. It would be preferred that non-daggers not be included in the list of usable weapons for assassination.

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Posted Nov 18, 2018
In reply to ray_smith:

Hi! Sorry for the troubles; Pawn should treat any non-dagger as unusable for Assassination. (1) Can you paste the scale you're using in a reply here, or a link to where you got it? Did you import it using Pawn's import button, or create it by typing in a bunch of numbers? (2) I assume that you're not using the artifact daggers from Legion?

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Posted Nov 20, 2018
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( Pawn: v1: "Toonname - Assassination (Raidbots)": Class=Rogue, Spec=Assassination, Agility=1.73, CritRating=1.40, HasteRating=1.51, MasteryRating=1.24, Versatility=1.25, Dps=8.68, OffHandDps=1.01 )

It's from Raidbots and I'm importing it in directly.

Correct, I'm currently using a pair of world quest daggers.

While I think of it, there's one other quirk I haven't been able to figure out - Pawn has MH/OH weights for dps for dual-wield classes but the tooltips only show the MH number even for items in the OH, this causes issues because things like sockets have more value for OH weapons since weapon dps (ie. iLvl) is a lot less important for an OH. Is this handled somehow in a way that I'm not seeing?

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Posted Nov 13, 2018
Hello !

Healers cant dual wield weapons but Pawn still think they can. You fixed it i believe for Mistweaver Monks, but I have the same issue on my Resto Druid. In fact, for many spec "One-Hand" weapons are actually "Main-Hand", which is somewhat confusing but that's how it works.

I also have a question : is there a way to switch the displayed scale when i switch spec while using some or all custom scales ? If not, that would be a good quality of life feature request.

Thank you.

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Posted Nov 18, 2018
In reply to FaeryllCurse:

Hi! Sorry for the delayed response. Resto druids shouldn't have the same problem; they're marked as not being able to use off-hand weapons already. Did you type in the numbers for your scale manually, or is it one that you imported using Pawn's Import feature? Can you paste the scale you're using here, or a link to where you got it?

I definitely do plan to add some sort of automatic switching for Manual mode someday. Thanks for the suggestion!

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Posted Nov 10, 2018
Not sure if it's entirely a huge issue or not, but playing a Void Elf Holy Priest right now, and I've been noticing that regardless of lvl of the gear I'm getting, no matter what it is telling me that the gear with the most versatality is an upgrade for me. Which Versatality is the lowest on my stat priority. Not sure if that's just a simple glitch or if you guys have wrote it that way, but it's really confusing me to see upgrades in my bags, when I literally am losing all other stats but gaining just a couple of vers and it's saying it's a 15% upgrade for me. For example, Slumbersilk Waistcord (ilvl 23) is saying it's a 3% upgrade for me over Enumerated wrap of the Fireflash (ilvl 28), and if I use the Slumbersilk I lose 1 Int, 2 Stam, 2 Crit, 3 Haste and gain 4 Vers, and it's an upgrade for me. I don't think that's right.

Playing on US servers, in English. BFA.

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