Pawn

Last Updated: Apr 3, 2019 Game Version: 8.1.5

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Owner: VgerAN

Pawn helps you find upgrades for your gear and tell which of two items is better for your spec. Start with built-in advice from Ask Mr. Robot, or customize Pawn's stat weights to have it suggest items based on your favorite class guide or simulator. Pawn can help you decide whether it's better to use the cloak with 100 mastery or the one with 80 crit—whether you're just starting out, or you're an advanced player who plans out gear upgrades and regularly simulates and evaluates performance.

Language support

Pawn works with English, French, German, Italian, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish (European and Latin American), Simplified Chinese, and Traditional Chinese. Unlike most addons, Pawn's language has to match the language you play WoW in.

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Prerelease alpha versions of Pawn are occasionally available on CurseForge.

Getting started

If you're new to Pawn, don't worry—Pawn will automatically set itself up to give you advice based on math done by the experts at Ask Mr. Robot. Just watch for Pawn's green arrows. If you decide you want to go further, there are a lot of ways that you can customize Pawn, by tracking multiple specs at once, importing custom stat weights, and more.

Found a bug?

If you think you might have found a bug, just leave a comment here. In addition to a description of the problem, please make sure to include: (1) the language that you use Pawn and WoW in, (2) the specific items that don't work as expected, and (3) your class and spec if you're using the built-in (not custom) stat weights. Screenshots are usually very helpful as well.

Incompatible with...

Pawn will not work with Titan Panel Artifact Power or Combat Numbers Separator. Those addons change item tooltips and will cause Pawn to give bad advice. It's also been reported that using Pawn with TradeSkillMaster can cause the game to crash or hang.

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VgerAN
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#4750 VgerAN

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Posted Mar 6, 2019
In reply to GrimNotepad:

Hi! Pawn never shows upgrade info for trinkets since the best ones aren't just pure stats (they have "special effects," as Pawn's UI calls them), and stats are what Pawn deals in. Comparing based on the scores is valid if you have two really basic trinkets that don't have Equip or Use or Chance on Hit effects, but I still don't show upgrade arrows on trinkets in that case so as to not lull you into a false sense of security.

I do have some plans to at some point show arrows based on ilvl for trinkets.

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Posted Feb 14, 2019
Feature request, specifically for rings: detect if you have the same ring already equipped and only compare against that ring if so, since all rings of relevance are unique-equipped. For example, I currently have a socketed 400 Band of Multi-Sided Strikes equipped, along with a 400 Seal of the Zandalari Empire, the former of which is much stronger based on my stat weights. A non-socketed one dropped tonight, and Pawn showed it as a 12% upgrade, since it is 12% stronger than my Seal, despite the fact that I wouldn't be able to equip two anyway.

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Posted Feb 17, 2019
In reply to Kaedys:

Thanks for the suggestion! Pawn actually has some code that's supposed to do that, but it hasn't seemed to work for a while. I'll try to take a look soon—I've run into the same situation and it's a little sad when you find out that it was a false positive.

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Posted Feb 14, 2019
VgerAN,

What would you think of removing the word "upgrade" from the text shown in tooltips? I feel like having the green upwards-pointing arrow is a sufficient visual cue that the item is an upgrade, and that the word "upgrade" makes the tooltip line longer than it really needs to be. Here's an image of what I was looking at today that motivated me to come post about this here:

There are many numbers present, and I don't have a problem with that. I like that all of that data is available, and it's valuable to me. But I feel that the data presented would be easier to parse more rapidly if the upgrade percentages were flush against the right edge of the tooltip.

Even if you disagree with me about removing the word "upgrade" entirely, could I convince you to just make it a checkbox in the config that I could uncheck?

Thanks for all you do, Pawn is a wonderful addon that works very well. I really appreciate all the work you put into it!

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Posted Feb 17, 2019
In reply to Yutaka:

Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. It looks like the image you uploaded isn't around anymore, but I'll try to imagine it. :) That seems like a pretty reasonable request; I'll try to get to that soon.

And you're welcome!

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Posted Feb 18, 2019
In reply to VgerAN:

lol I just searched for a a fast image pastebin, and uploaded to the first one Google gave me. Maybe I didn't check the box that would've told it to persist for a while? Or since I don't even have an account they purge pictures quickly? I don't know. I just wanted to illustrate how busy that area of my tooltip can be, but it sounds like you get it. (Just let me know if I should try again!)

I'm excited to hear that you will try to get this done soon, I'm looking forward to it! Thanks.

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Posted Feb 8, 2019
Hi, good addon. But I found a mistake in the counting formula. This is leech. Shaman Elemental

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Posted Feb 17, 2019
In reply to fcrazy:

Sorry for the confusion! That's the difference in stats, not score: 105 - 0 = +105. Take a look a couple lines above: the item on the right has 117 of the stat and the one on the left has 96, so that's +21.

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Posted Feb 8, 2019
Hello VgerAN

First, Very thanks for your add-on Pawn! Can't play wow without it now!

It's absolutely an essential add-on like DBM and Skada!

Since some days, with the french version of Wow.. i get this error msg in chat with Pawn when i log to Wow just after Guild Message of Day. But no problem with English version of Wow and Pawn is up-to-date!

Error: Pawn may provide incorrect advice due to a potential addon conflict. Pawn is not compatible with Combat Numbers Separator, Titan Panel Artifact Power, or other addons tat change the way that numbers appear.

But i tried to log with only Pawn enabled without no other add-on but i still get this error msg and only with the french version of Wow.. I tried to remove cache and WTF folder too but same problem!

i tried to reinstall pawn (and wow too but not for this reason) but without success

Very thanks for your help

Michael

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Posted Feb 12, 2019
Hello

I tried with the German version of wow (and Pawn) for fun and no problem like english version.

i tried with older version of Pawn (2.2.35) and same dammit error msg at login (still with french wow)!!

:o(

Michael

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Posted Feb 17, 2019
In reply to ShamlanISR:

Hi! Thanks for the report. I looked into this, and it's because WoW stopped putting spaces in 4-digit numbers ("1234" used to show up as "1 234") in the French version, probably when 8.1 hit. This problem should be fixed in Pawn 2.2.37, but the error message is incorrect and just an annoyance—there isn't actually an addon incompatibility.

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Posted Feb 18, 2019
In reply to VgerAN:

The error message still appear in the 2.2.37 version i just downloaded but if it has no impact as you say then no problems. 😊

Very thanks VgerAN :)

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Posted Feb 8, 2019
Safari won't open the page link for pawn, says it doesn't recognize an address that starts with " curse"

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Posted Feb 17, 2019
In reply to imayaye22924:

Sorry, which link? Almost all of the links you'll see on this page are from Curse, not me.

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Posted Feb 6, 2019
Hi!

I am entering the numbers manually, would be nice the OFF-hand dps weight to be somewhere on the top section, not at the end of the list.

Thank you!

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Posted Feb 7, 2019
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Okay, got it!

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Posted Feb 3, 2019
I'm using manual configuration and let display the values for several specs (i.e. weight settings). That's great so far (in the tooltip). But in the inventory there's everything full of green arrows indicating improvements... mostly for inactive spec... but maybe not all... you have to check all items' tooltips.

Would it be possible to add an option for changing the color of the (now green) arrow on the item's icon?

For example:

I configure green arrow for spec 1 and blue for spec 2. An item which is improvement for 1 shows a green arrow, for spec 2 blue and for both specs both arrows. (of course "spec" means a set of weights in the configuration)

That would be awesome. ;)

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Posted Feb 5, 2019
In reply to Atair:

Hi! It's definitely something that I'd like to do, but right now, those arrows are added by the game itself and the options I get to choose from are green or nothing. :) But yeah, I'd love to enhance it someday to support colors and multiple arrows.

Probably shorter-term, a lot of people have asked for a way to only show arrows for the current spec, which might also help you out. (I think I'd prefer to see them for all specs, but I'll add the option and give it a shot.)

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Posted Jan 28, 2019
How do you compare a main-hand + off-hand to a two-hander?

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Posted Feb 5, 2019
In reply to Knubbia:

Hi! Right now Pawn doesn't have a great built-in way to do that. :( You'll need to add and compare the scores manually—you can see an item's score by putting it into Pawn's Compare tab (either side... doesn't matter), or by going into Options and choosing "show scale values and upgrade %" to put them on your tooltips. Then just add them up and see if A + B is more than C.

Definitely something that I want to improve someday, but that's the best option right now.

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